Mark 1:17
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus kai καὶ And Conj |
Strongs 2036
[list] Λογεῖον Perseus eipen εἶπεν said V-AIA-3S |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus autois αὐτοῖς to themselves PPro-DM3P |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus ho ὁ the Art-NMS |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus Iēsous Ἰησοῦς Salvation N-NMS |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus Deute Δεῦτε Come V-M-2P |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus opisō ὀπίσω back Prep |
Strongs 1473
[list] Λογεῖον Perseus mou μου of myself PPro-G1S |
Strongs 2532
[list] Λογεῖον Perseus kai καὶ and Conj |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus poiēsō ποιήσω I will make V-FIA-1S |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus hymas ὑμᾶς yourselves PPro-A2P |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus genesthai γενέσθαι become V-ANM |
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[list] Λογεῖον Perseus halieis ἁλιεῖς seamen N-AMP |
Strongs 444
[list] Λογεῖον Perseus anthrōpōn ἀνθρώπων men N-GMP |
Become of Men
And the Salvation said to themselves, "Come here, backwards from myself, and I will make yourselves to become seamen of men."3And Jesus said to them, Come after Me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
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Footnotes
3 | To Fish in the Realm of Men The Greek ἁλιεῖς is a noun, and not a verb. The word ἁλιεύω is the verb "to fish" and is not used here. To express the traditional interpretation, one would expect οἱ ἀλιεύοντες "the ones who fish for" (Cf. Perseus ἀλιεύοντες) "οἱ ἀλιεύοντες ἀνθρώπους" "those who fish for men" Where ἀνθρώπους is in the accusative. Basically the traditional interpretation is a complete misnomer and hacking of the grammar. The genitive "of" was very craftily used in an accusative sense because in English the word "of" can sometime have an accusative sense. Artificial Intelligence even knows this: ἁλιεῖς ἀνθρώπων would not mean "fishers for men" in the grammatical sense. Here's why:
In this construction, ἀνθρώπων would typically mean something like "of men" or "of people." However in English, "fishers of men" can have an accusative sense because the preposition "of" often corresponds to the genitive in Greek, but it can sometimes express a direct object relationship in English. However, in Greek, ἀνθρώπων (genitive) would not directly translate to the same sense as an accusative would in English. The genitive here expresses "of men" or "belonging to men," which indicates a relationship of association rather than a direct object of the action (i.e., fishing for men). To break it down:
While ἀνθρώπων can indeed imply a relationship that, in some contexts, could be understood in English as an accusative sense, Greek grammar would not use the genitive here to indicate a direct object of the action in the way English might allow. So, if you want to keep the sense of "fishing for men," using the accusative (ἀνθρώπους) would be the best way to directly express that in Greek. To express "fishers for men" or "those who fish for men," you'd need the accusative case, as in ἁλιεῖς ἀνθρώπους, where ἀνθρώπους is in the accusative and would be understood as the object of the verb ἀλιεύειν (to fish).
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